Dear Robert,
I feel that for pre-1982 (and Classical Greek) orthography, the inclusion of diacritics
would be cumbersome and onerous, but am in favor of adding diacritics for post-1982
records. However, I am also aware of the diminishing resources of cataloging departments
charged with doing the work as well as catalogers' varying degrees of knowledge of
Modern Greek, which would come into play with titles in all capital letters, as previously
noted, or artistic/poetic works in which the title appears in a calligraphic or other
stylized script.
Best,
George I. Paganelis
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George I. Paganelis
Curator, Tsakopoulos Hellenic Collection
University Library
California State University, Sacramento
2000 State University Drive East
Sacramento, CA 95819-6039
Ph: (916) 278-4361 * Fax: (916) 278-5917
paganelis(a)csus.edu
http://www.library.csus.edu/tsakopoulos
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Hello Mr. Rendall, chairetismos apo Princeton. The consensus at
Princeton among catalogers and division head is the in-putting of
diacritics, particularly for pre-1982 and classical Greek would add
considerably to the work at hand. Other than producing a truer, and more
pleasing representation of the written text, the omission of diacritics
would not detract from the validity of the catalog record.
I suppose the larger question to PCC would be what is to be gained by
in-putting the various diacritics? Given the circuitous methods needed
to in-put the diacritics, the present work loads and staff reductions,
Princeton agrees with Yale and Harvard that the addition of all
diacritics would be onerous.
Thank you for writing,
Gisela Kam
Mod. Grk. & Rom. Lngs. Cataloger
Firestone Library
Princeton University
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Subject: [Cohsl-list] Greek script diacritics in OCLC records
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Colleagues -
I am serving on the PCC Task Force on Non-Latin Script Cataloging
Documentation. This group has been charged with producing
"authoritative and comprehensive documentation on providing equivalent
fields in non-Latin scripts that provides for consistent application
across available scripts."
We are aware that in most records with Greek script currently in OCLC,
the diacritics that normally appear in Greek text are omitted. We have
also been told that is it technically possible to enter Greek script
with appropriate diacritics in OCLC by using the same MARC-8 combining
diacritics used by catalogers in OCLC for Latin script (see for example
the contents notes in OCLC record #428012280 for Progymnasmata quae
exstant omnia, with Greek script added by Brigham Young University; this
record passes OCLC validation).
The two diacritics needed for contemporary, post-1982 modern Greek
orthography can be entered reasonably easily in OCLC using the "Enter
Diacritics and Special Characters" menu. All the other diacritics
needed for pre-1982 and classical Greek can also be entered, but some
are not available from this menu in OCLC, and special keystroke
combinations need to be set up to produce them. Entering valid
combining diacritics in local systems before uploading records to OCLC
might present further complications.
All of this is quite different from the way Greek is usually entered and
encoded in other contexts on the Web, I think, and text with diacritics
produced by other methods cannot be copied into OCLC records.
The CoHSL list is the only place where I have found any discussion of
Greek diacritics in OCLC records (in a few messages from 2007). My
group will be recommending standards to be followed by the Library of
Congress and other participants in the Program for Cooperative
Cataloging. I would welcome any comments on whether we should recommend
that entering Greek diacritics should be encouraged or required for
items in post- and/or pre-1982 orthography, given that they would have
to be input as described above.
I would particularly like to hear from any catalogers in other libraries
currently entering Greek script in bibliographic records. Please
forward this message as appropriate.
Thank you,
Robert Rendall
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